{"id":500,"date":"2019-06-09T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-06-09T20:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/rosati-dna-match\/"},"modified":"2025-07-31T13:15:33","modified_gmt":"2025-07-31T11:15:33","slug":"rosati-dna-match","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/rosati-dna-match\/","title":{"rendered":"Rosati (DNA Match)"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>DNA-Match<\/h1>\n<p>FRO, from PA, USA, has a DNA-Match with me on<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">ancestry<\/a>: 21 cM across 3 segments, possible <strong>4th to 6th cousin<\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Following table shows the possible relationship to our MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor). In parenthesis the less probable surnames, reported here just for sake of completeness and because DNA-matches and family trees are often not so precise or reliable.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"40%\">My family<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"20%\">MRCA<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"40%\">FRO&#8217;s family<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" colspan=\"3\"><strong>Del Grande<\/strong>\u00a0(most possible surname of the MRCA between RFO and me)<br \/>\n(Ciriaci, Cognoli, Franceschini, Guerrieri, Orsini, Paqualini, Quaglia, Rosati, Sermarini, Tosti)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>4x-great-grandparents<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-cognoli-sermarini\">Cognoli + Sermarini<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-cognoli-del-grande\">Cognoli + Del Grande<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-cognoli-guerrieri\">Cognoli + Guerrieri<\/a>, Orsini + Quaglia<br \/>\n(<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-massetti-fazi\">Massetti + Fazi<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-di-lorenzo-bellini\"><strong>Di Lorenzo<\/strong> + Bellini<\/a>)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Siblings?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FRO&#8217;s 4x-great-grandparents:<br \/>\nAntonio Del Grande<br \/>\n(Ciriaci, Pasqualini, Rosati, Tosti)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>3x-great-grandparents<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-cognoli-del-grande\">Cognoli + Del Grande<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-cognoli-guerrieri\">Cognoli + Guerrieri<\/a>, Orsini + Quaglia<br \/>\n(<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-massetti-fazi\">Massetti + Fazi<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-di-lorenzo-bellini\"><strong>Di Lorenzo<\/strong> + Bellini<\/a>)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Siblings or 1st cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FOR&#8217;s 3x-great-grandparents:<br \/>\nPietro Del Grande (b. ca. 1824, probabl. Acquasanta; d. ca. 1904, probabl. Acquasanta) + Maria Pasqualini (b. ca. 1824; d. unknown)<br \/>\n(Ciriaci, Rosati, Tosti)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>2x-great-grandparents<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-cognoli-guerrieri\">Cognoli + Guerrieri<\/a>, Orsini + Quaglia<br \/>\n(<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-massetti-fazi\">Massetti + Fazi<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-di-lorenzo-bellini\"><strong>Di Lorenzo<\/strong> + Bellini<\/a>)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Siblings or 2nd cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FRO&#8217;s 2x-great-grandparents:<br \/>\nFilippo Del Grande (b. ca. 1845, probabl. Acquasanta; d. ca. 1913, probabl. Acquasanta) + Maria Ciriaci<br \/>\n(Rosati, Tosti)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>great-grandparents<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/nicola-cognoli-e-ernesta-orsini\">Cognoli + Orsini<\/a><br \/>\n(<a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/famiglia-massetti-di-lorenzo\">Massetti + Di Lorenzo<\/a>)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">1st or 3rd cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FRO&#8217;s great-grandparents:<br \/>\nPasquale Rosati (b. S.Maria, AP) + Emidia Tosti<br \/>\nSerafino Del Grande (b. ca. 1861, probabl. Acquasanta; d. ca. 1933) + Rita Franceschini (b. ca. 1880; d. unknown)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>grandfather<\/strong>: Cognoli<br \/>\n(My grandmother: Massetti)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">2nd or 4th cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FRO&#8217;s grandparents<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>mother<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3rd or 5th cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FRO&#8217;s parents<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Me<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th or 6th cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>FRO<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Thus, according to the table above, FRO and I should be<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>3rd cousin, if Nicola Francesco Domenico Cognoli or Ernesta Orsini were cousins of Pasquale Rosati, Emidia Tosti, Serafino Del Grande, or Rita Franceschini;<\/li>\n<li>4th cousin, if Pietro Baldassarre Cognoli or Carolina Guerrieri were cousins of Filippo del Grande or Maria Ciriaci;<\/li>\n<li>5th cousin, if Rosa Del Grande was a syster of Pietro Del Grande;<\/li>\n<li>6th cousin, if one of the parents of Rosa Del Grande was a brother or a syster of Antonio del Grande.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Location<\/h2>\n<p>As confirmed by FRO in a mail, his relatives were from Acquasanta Terme (AP, Marche, Italia) and\/or Santa Maria, a town nearby, as mine. I have no known ancestors from San Benedetto del Tronto (AP, Marche, Italia), thus I ignored for the moment that part of his tree.<\/p>\n<p>Surnames in his tree are present also in mine and in the <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/genetealogia\/genealogia\/fonti-e-riferimenti#cognoli2010-4\">Acquasanta Vol. IV<\/a> (cfr. e.g. Pag. 290 for the Quaglia family, Pag. 256 to 258 for the Orsini family, etc.). However, the cited book reports the genealogies of Acquasanta and Cagnano only, so that our ancestors cannot be found there but for only the ones born in Acquasanta (e.g. my grandfather and his branch).<\/p>\n<p>FRO indicates as place of birth of Serafino Del Grande, Filippo Del Grande, and Pietro Del Grande Acquasanta. However the surname Del Grande is not present in the citated book, neither the surname Rosati, probably they were from some town nearby, like Quintodecimo, or Paggese, or any other small town between Acquasanta and S. Maria.<\/p>\n<p>On the other side, there are some surnames in FRO&#8217;s family tree and in the possible relationship as per the table above, that are in the citated book: e.g. Ciriaci, Franceschini, Orsini, and as not reported (Pag. 336) also Tosti.<\/p>\n<h2>Common DNA-Matches<\/h2>\n<p>Following table shows the DNA-matches in common between FRO and me on ancestry.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" width=\"80%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"15%\">Name<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"25%\">relationship to me<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"25%\">cM, segments<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Notes<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">B. Dal Fuoco<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">49cM, 3 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">No visible tree. No contact allowed.<br \/>\nCommon matches: J. Paliotti, R. Gobbi, tj&#8230;, BJ, ja&#8230;, M. Rheaume, A. Williamson.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">V. Buidens<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">41cM, 4 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">No visible tree.<br \/>\nCommon matches: T.P., J. O&#8217;Neill, W. Schiavo.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">T.P.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">40cM, 2 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree with 7 people only.<br \/>\nNo knwon surname.<br \/>\nCommon matches: V. Buidens, J. O&#8217;Neill, ma&#8230;, W. Schiavo.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">J. Ferretti<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">37cM, 4 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">No visible tree.<br \/>\nCommon matches: S. Bethune, C. Ferretti, J. Landman.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">JMO<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">28cM, 2 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">See <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/the-moretti-families\">The Moretti Families<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">BJA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">27cM, 3 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree with 943 people.<br \/>\nNo known surname, but for Alessi (present in <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/genetealogia\/genealogia\/fonti-e-riferimenti#cognoli2010-4\">Acquasanta Vol. IV<\/a>) and Moretti (see above).<br \/>\nCommon matches: M. and J. Moretti, lh&#8230;, K. Rice, C. Guerrieri, B. Dal Fuoco, ad&#8230;, J. Paliotti, T. Pagani, C. Ives, ma&#8230;, J.P..<br \/>\nSee also See <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/the-moretti-families\">The Moretti Families<\/a>.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">W. Schiavo<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">4th-6th cousin<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">20cM, 2 seg.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree with 15 people only.<br \/>\nNo known surname (but for Russo, which I have on my father side).<br \/>\nCommon matches: K. Emproto, V. Buidens, T.P., J. O&#8217;Neill.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Of these surnames, none compare in my family tree.<\/p>\n<h3>DNA matches on MyHeritage<\/h3>\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">MyHeritage<\/a> I do not match directly with anyone from a Rosati family. Neither is FRO or one of his relatives on that site, as far as I know.<\/p>\n<p>However one match is looking for the Rosati surnames and have Rosati in his tree:<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<h3>DNA matches on FamilyTreeDNA<\/h3>\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">FamilyTreeDNA<\/a>\u00a0I do not match directly with anyone from a Rosati family.<\/p>\n<p>Neither is FRO or one of his relatives on that site, as far as I know.<\/p>\n<p>Searching Rosati in my matches list, no result is shown.<\/p>\n<h3>DNA matches on 23andme<\/h3>\n<p>Neither on <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">23andme<\/a> I match directly with anyone from a Rosati family.<\/p>\n<p>Neither is FRO or one of his relatives on that site, as far as I know.<\/p>\n<p>Searching Rosati in my matches list, no result is shown.<\/p>\n<p>(Deleted Tags: Acquasanta_Terme, Ascoli_Piceno, Corrispondenze-DNA, DNA, Marche, Ricerche)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DNA-Match FRO, from PA, USA, has a DNA-Match with me on ancestry: 21 cM across 3 segments, possible 4th to 6th cousin. Following table shows the possible relationship to our MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor). In parenthesis the less probable surnames, reported here just for sake of completeness and because DNA-matches and family trees are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[442],"tags":[695,368],"class_list":["post-500","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-famiglie","tag-corrispondenze-dna","tag-rosati"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/500","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=500"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/500\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":872,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/500\/revisions\/872"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=500"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=500"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=500"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}