{"id":507,"date":"2019-06-22T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-06-22T20:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/venegoni-dna-match\/"},"modified":"2025-07-31T13:31:36","modified_gmt":"2025-07-31T11:31:36","slug":"venegoni-dna-match","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/venegoni-dna-match\/","title":{"rendered":"Venegoni (DNA Match)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230; da revisionare &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>GVE, from USA, has a DNA-Match with me on <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">myheritage<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>297,9 cM (longest one 57,3 cM) across 18 segments, 4,2%, possible <strong>2nd to 4th\u00a0 cousin<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>and with my father as well as with my brother and my two daughters, also on <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">myheritage<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>(with my father): 466,5 cM (longest one 57,3 cM) across 25 segments, possible <strong>granduncle to 2nd\u00a0 cousin<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>(with my brother): 278,3 cM (longest one 52,8 cM) across 12 segments, possible <strong>2nd to 3rd\u00a0 cousin<\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Although I have a Venegoni on my tree (Angelo Venegoni, b. 25 sept 1909 in Missouri, USA; d. 18 july2008 in St. Louis, MO, USA) he has no DNA-relatdness with me. Angelo married Angelina Finocchiaro (b. ab. 1915 in St. Louis, MO, USA; d. ab. apr 1994). Following figure shows that branch of my tree.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2494\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2494\" style=\"width: 865px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2494 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/site\/\/4\/Venegoni-Angelo.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"865\" height=\"660\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2494\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Venegoni Angelo&#8217;s branch on my tree.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>As you can see from the small blue circles, there is no &#8220;DNA-Connection&#8221; between my ancestors (e.g. Salvatore Greco and Anna Sciuto) and the mentioned Angelo.<\/p>\n<p>That means we should look further back to find another DNA-Connection with the Venegoni family and GVE.<\/p>\n<p>Following table shows the possible relationship to our MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor). In parenthesis the less probable surnames, reported here just for sake of completeness and because DNA-matches and family trees are often not so precise or reliable.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">% DNA<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">My family<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">MRCA<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">GVE&#8217;s family<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">% DNA<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" colspan=\"5\">The possible MRCA between GVE and me should be found in the Greco family: maybe Giambattista Greco.<br \/>\nGreco \u21d0\u00a0Finocchiaro \u21d0 Venegoni<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~52,8%<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>2x-great-grandparents<\/strong>: Nunzio <strong>Greco<\/strong> + Angela <strong>Tomarchio, <\/strong>Giuseppe <strong>Sciuto +<\/strong> Agata <strong>Gangemi<\/strong><br \/>\n(And\u00f2, Scuderi, Aliotta, Donato)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Siblings?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">GVE&#8217;s 2x-great-grandparents:<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~52,8%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~26,4%<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>great-grandparents<\/strong>: Greco + Sciuto, And\u00f2 + Aliotta<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">uncle or 1st cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">GVE&#8217;s great-grandparents:<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~26,4%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~13,2%<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>grandparents<\/strong>: Greco + And\u00f2<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">uncle or 1st cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">GVE grandparents:<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~13,2%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>6,6%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My <strong>father<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">grand-uncle or 2nd cousins?<br \/>\n(matches in myheritage)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">GVE parents:<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>6,6%<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>4,2%<br \/>\n(3,9%)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Me<br \/>\n(my brother)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">2nd or 4th cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"2\"><b>GVE<\/b><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>4,2%<br \/>\n(3,9%)<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>2,6%<br \/>\n2,5%<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>my daughters<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3rd or 5th cousins?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>2,6%<br \/>\n2,5%<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Thus, according to the table above, GVE and I should be<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>2nd cousin, if &#8230;,<\/li>\n<li>3rd cousin, if &#8230;,<\/li>\n<li>4th cousin, if &#8230;.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Location<\/h2>\n<p>Having GVE&#8217;s tree on myheritage just two people and not visible, I have no information about where his ancestors where from.<\/p>\n<p>However, according to the few common DNA-Matches, I guess the location of origin of our MRCA to be in Sicily, probably in the Catania province, most probably in the Acireale zone.<\/p>\n<h2>Common DNA-Matches<\/h2>\n<p>Following table shows the DNA-matches in common between GVE and me.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" width=\"80%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"15%\">Name<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"25%\">relationship to me<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"25%\">relationship to GVE<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Notes<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>FDC<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">father<br \/>\n(3.537,2 cM 49,9%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">granduncle, 2nd cousin.<br \/>\n(466,5 cM 6,6%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">My father as GVE&#8217;s granduncle is consistent with the fact that my brother and I are one generation forward ans should be his 2nd cousins.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>FAP<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">dautghter<br \/>\n(3.517,2 cM, 49,6%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">2nd-4th cousin<br \/>\n(178,3 cM, 2,5%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"2\">Consistent with the relationship between GVE and my father and with my brother and me, my daughters should be his 3th cousins.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>GFE<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">daughter<br \/>\n(3512,3 cM, 49,5%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3th-4th cousin<br \/>\n(182,6 cM, 2,6%)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>DNG<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">brother<br \/>\n(2622,3 cM, 37,0%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">2nd-3rd cousin<br \/>\n(278,3 cM, 3,9%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Quite the same as mine as DNG is my brother.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">J. Le Mura<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">5th-9th cousin<br \/>\n(27,3 cM, longest 11,2 cM, 3 segm., 0,4%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3th-dist. cousin<br \/>\n(33,9 cM, 0,5%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">No visible tree.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">M. Rod<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3th-dist. cousin<br \/>\n(11,6 cM, longest 11,6 cM, 1 segm., 0,2%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">5th-9th cousin<br \/>\n(42,8 cM, 0,6%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree with just 9 people.<br \/>\nNo known surnames (Lipera, Spina).<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">LFI<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">5th-9th cousin<br \/>\n(32,1 cM, longest 23,9 cM, 2 segm., 0,5%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3th-dist. cousin<br \/>\n(19,1 cM, 0,3%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"2\">See <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/the-fichera-families\">The Fichera Families<\/a>.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">JVH<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3th-dist. cousin<br \/>\n(30,8 cM, longest 20,5 cM, 2 segm., 0,4%)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">3th-dist. cousin<br \/>\n(18,8 cM, 0,3%)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h3>Clusters<\/h3>\n<p>GVE is in my cluster 13, where also following matches are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>G. Samperi,<\/li>\n<li>T. Schaffer, and<\/li>\n<li>M.N. Devarso.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>DNA matches on FamilyTreeDNA<\/h3>\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">FamilyTreeDNA<\/a> I do not match with anyone, who has Venegoni in their tree or are looking for this surname, as far as I know.<\/p>\n<h3>DNA matches on 23andme<\/h3>\n<p>Neither on <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">23andme<\/a> I do match with anyone, who has Venegoni in their tree or are looking for this surname, as far as I know.<\/p>\n<h3>DNA matches on ancestry<\/h3>\n<p>Again, on <a href=\"https:\/\/famiglia-greco.eu\/i-siti-per-la-genetica\">ancestry<\/a> I neither match with anyone, who has Venegoni in their tree or are looking for this surname, as far as I know.<\/p>\n<h2>Searching Venegoni on the sites<\/h2>\n<p>I contacted GVE on myheritage on 29-Dec-2018 but didn&#8217;t get any answer so far.<\/p>\n<p>So, as I have very few information about GVE&#8217;s family, I&#8217;ve to use a different approach, looking for a possible connection through the documents I can find online.<\/p>\n<p>Only information I have are name (George) and surname (Venegoni) and possible date of birth (around 1954 as in 2019 he is between 60 and 70).<\/p>\n<p>I have then put such few information in the search criteria. Below are the results.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" width=\"80%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Name<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Kind of Document<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Date and place of birth<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"20%\">Parents<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Wife<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\" width=\"20%\">Children<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Date and place of death<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Notes<\/th>\n<th style=\"text-align: center;\">Links<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>unknown<\/em><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Academy of Our Lady&#8217;s and Spalding Institute&#8217;s<br \/>\nYearbooks 1977<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">John<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10568\/us-yearbooks-1890-1979?s=462866971&amp;itemId=51212228&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Academy+of+Our+Lady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH1<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10568\/us-yearbooks-1890-1979?s=462866971&amp;itemId=51363207&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Spalding+Institute\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH2<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Joseph George a.k.a. Joseph A.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Index Public Documents USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">22-Jun-1967<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Possible relatives:<br \/>\nMary R., b. 24-Nov-1916;<br \/>\nConstance M., b. 22-Mar-1942;<br \/>\nTheresa Marie, b. 20-Nov-1965;<br \/>\nSharon C., b. 26-Apr-1977.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10220\/indice-dei-documenti-pubblici-degli-usa?s=462866971&amp;itemId=204992910&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Joseph+George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>unknown<\/em><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Bishop Dubourg High School&#8217;s<br \/>\nYearbook 1963<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Vera<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10568\/us-yearbooks-1890-1979?s=462866971&amp;itemId=118485225&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Bishop+Dubourg+High+School\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">George<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">McBride High School&#8217;s<br \/>\nYearbook 1967<br \/>\n(Long Beach, CA, USA)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">~1952<br \/>\n(67 in 2019)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">He could be GVE.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10569\/us-yearbooks-name-index-1890-1979?s=462866971&amp;itemId=202681356&amp;groupId=1cd9955e45f5e781257836013116a2f8&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH1<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10568\/us-yearbooks-1890-1979?s=462866971&amp;itemId=118891231&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=McBride+High+School\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH2<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>George<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Angelo Venegoni<\/strong> (d. 18-Jul-2008, St. Louis, MO, USA).<br \/>\n<strong>Angelina L. Finocchiaro<\/strong>.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Possible relatives: Louis, John, Ambrose, Lawrence.<br \/>\nOther people: Josephine Ferrario, Rose Piantanida, Louis, Maria Hopple, Ann Kelly.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Siblings: Gerard, Antoinette (Bollinger), Angelo J.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/1:1:QVRB-NMDH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FS1<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/1:1:QVRB-NMR4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FS2<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"2\">George Alfio<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Index Public Documents USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">11-May-1949<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">?Gina?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Possible relatives:<br \/>\nCatherine (Newberry), b. 11-Apr-1966;<br \/>\nAngelo Joseph, b. 25-Sept-1909;<br \/>\nAmbrose P., b. 4-Sept-1916;<br \/>\nLinda M., b. 20-May-1953;<br \/>\nJoe, b. 24-Jun-1955;<br \/>\nVicki G., b. 9-Feb-1957;<br \/>\nJulie M., 6-May-1980;<br \/>\nLeslie A., b. 23-Jun-1983;<br \/>\nGina<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">He could be GVE.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10220\/indice-dei-documenti-pubblici-degli-usa?itemId=206037178&amp;action=showRecord\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">United States Public Records, 1970-2009<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">11-May-1949<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Possible relatives:<br \/>\nAmbrose P., Angelo Joseph, Gina, Joe, Julie M., Leslie A., Linda M., Catherine (Newberry), Vicki G..<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/1:1:2M3P-3MB\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FS<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">George Anthony<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Births CA, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">10-Jun-1940<br \/>\nLos Angeles, CA, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Mother maiden name: Hahn<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10070\/nascite-in-california-1905-1995?s=462866971&amp;itemId=2438586-&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Anthony+George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Antohony George<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Index Public Documents USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">10-Jun-1940<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Possible relatives:<br \/>\nCatherine J., b. 02-Sept-1947;<br \/>\nMarc Anthony, b. 20-Nov-1974;<br \/>\nNicholas John, b. 25-May-1977;<br \/>\nNicky J..<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10220\/indice-dei-documenti-pubblici-degli-usa?s=462866971&amp;itemId=129373175&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Anthony+George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"4\">Joseph George<br \/>\n(Joseph G.)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree on FS<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">19-Dec-1909<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Battista Luigi a.k.a. Bob, Robert, b. 13-Jun-1881 or 1884, prob. Cuggiono, MI, I; d. 21-Jun-1952, St. Louis, MO, USA; mother: Rosa Bazzetta.<br \/>\nTeresa Rosa ne\u00e9 Seratoni, b. 1888, d. 1978, St. Louis, MO, USA;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Joseph A.,<br \/>\nJoseph George,<br \/>\nFrank Joseph.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">26-Sept-1967<br \/>\nSt. Louis, MO, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Brother: Frank Joseph.<br \/>\nSyster: Maria Veronica (mar. Tunesi).<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-40001\/albero-genealogico-di-familysearch?s=462866971&amp;itemId=1387531277&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=Joseph+George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">FindAGrave<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">19-Dec-1909<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Battista (b. 13-Jun-1884, Milan, Italy; d. 21-Jun-1952, Affton, St. Louis, MO, USA).<br \/>\nTeresa ne\u00e9 Seratoni (b. 30-Jan-1888, Italy; d. Nov-1978, St. Louis, MO, USA)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">26-Sept-1967<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Brother: Frank Joseph.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/search.ancestry.it\/cgi-bin\/sse.dll?indiv=1&amp;dbid=60525&amp;h=10919963&amp;tid=&amp;pid=&amp;usePUB=true&amp;_phsrc=yrF4851&amp;_phstart=successSource\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ancestry<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Burial<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Affton, St. Louis, MO,USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/1:1:QVKL-SGPM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FS<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">United States Public Records, 1970-2009<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Residence: Newborn, GA, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/1:1:QJ89-K2P1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FS<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"4\">George J.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Death Certificate<br \/>\nMO, 1910-1960<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">17-Mar-1875<br \/>\nItaly<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Joseph Venegoni (b. Italy)<br \/>\nCatherina Cuccetta (b. Italy)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Regina Roncilio<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">14-Sept-1948 (73)<br \/>\nSt. Louis<br \/>\nBurial: 18-Sept-1948<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\" rowspan=\"2\">Is this George J. the same as in following row (George a.k.a Joe)?<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10018\/certificati-di-decesso-nel-missouri-1910-1960?s=462866971&amp;itemId=1698699-&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=George+J.+Venegoni#fullscreen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree managed by<br \/>\nDavid Adams<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">17-Mar-1875<br \/>\nItaly<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Regina<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Louis<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">14-Sept-1948 (73)<br \/>\nSaint Louis, St. Louis City, MO, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-1\/alberi-genealogici-di-myheritage?s=462866971&amp;itemId=275521201-1-14090&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=George+J+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Social Security USA, 1936-2007<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Regina Rauciglio<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Ambrose Paul (b. 04-Sept-1916. St. Lousi, MO, USA; d. 15-Apr-2002)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/search.ancestry.it\/cgi-bin\/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&amp;r=5546&amp;db=Numident&amp;indiv=try&amp;h=19112340\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ancestry<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Social Security USA, 1936-2007<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Regina Rancilio<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">John Frank (b. 17-Feb-1913, St. Louis, MO, USA; d. 30-Dec-2005)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/search.ancestry.it\/cgi-bin\/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&amp;r=5546&amp;db=Numident&amp;indiv=try&amp;h=26151393\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ancestry<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">George a.k.a.<br \/>\nJoe<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Tree (Duchinsky Family) managed by tded1<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">17-Mar-1875<br \/>\nCuggiono, MI, Italy<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Joseph Venegoni (b. Cuggiono)<br \/>\nCaterina Cucchetti (b. Cuggiono)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Regina Rancilio (b. 1877, Cuggiono, d. 1964, St. Louis)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Josephine (1898-1976, m. Ambrose Ferrario),<br \/>\nRosie (1903-1985),<br \/>\nCesear (1904-1973),<br \/>\nLouis (1908-1931),<br \/>\n<strong>Angelo (1909-???)<\/strong>,<br \/>\nMarie (1911-1976),<br \/>\nAmbrose (1916-2002),<br \/>\nLawrence (1920-1963),<br \/>\n2 &#8220;privates&#8221;.<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Is this George a.k.a. Joe the same as in the two previous rows (George J.)?<\/p>\n<p>Is Angelo, son of George, the same Angelo I have in my tree? According to the birth year he could be!<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ancestry.it\/family-tree\/person\/tree\/12354063\/person\/-191176536\/facts?_phsrc=yrF4846&amp;_phstart=successSource\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ancestry<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">George<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Deaths in Illinois,<br \/>\n1916-1950<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">23-Aug-1948<br \/>\nRoad Dist No 5 Unio, Union, IL, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10081\/decessi-in-illinois-1916-1950?s=462866971&amp;itemId=2813941-&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">George<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Deaths in Illinois,<br \/>\n1916-1950<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">22-Sept-1922<br \/>\nWestville, Vermilion, IL, USA<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myheritage.it\/research\/collection-10081\/decessi-in-illinois-1916-1950?s=462866971&amp;itemId=2813940-&amp;action=showRecord&amp;recordTitle=George+Venegoni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MH<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Georg<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Anna Nowak<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Anna (bapt. 27-Jul-1823, Nagybajom, Somogy, H)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/search.ancestry.it\/cgi-bin\/sse.dll?indiv=1&amp;dbid=9891&amp;h=17392129&amp;tid=&amp;pid=&amp;usePUB=true&amp;_phsrc=yrF4853&amp;_phstart=successSource\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ancestry<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Georgius<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Anna Norak<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\">Joannes (bapt. 26-Jan-1821, Nagybajom, Somogy, H)<\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/search.ancestry.it\/cgi-bin\/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&amp;r=5546&amp;db=FS1HungaryCatholicChurchRecords&amp;indiv=try&amp;h=42649223\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ancestry<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>(Deleted Tags: Corrispondenze-DNA, DNA)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230; da revisionare &#8230; GVE, from USA, has a DNA-Match with me on myheritage: 297,9 cM (longest one 57,3 cM) across 18 segments, 4,2%, possible 2nd to 4th\u00a0 cousin and with my father as well as with my brother and my two daughters, also on myheritage: (with my father): 466,5 cM (longest one 57,3 cM) [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[442],"tags":[695,370],"class_list":["post-507","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-famiglie","tag-corrispondenze-dna","tag-venegoni"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/507","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=507"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/507\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":884,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/507\/revisions\/884"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=507"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=507"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/robertogreco.eu\/genetealogia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=507"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}